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	<title>Comments on: URGENT Proposal from the FEI Dressage Task Force</title>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Robert for the reply, and I am enjoying your site and personal views of things.

I must be a bit daft - since I cant seem to read betw the lines and answer my first question above.

If the 3rd rider cannot go onto the GPS - do the rest of the riders become individuals?  this must be the case then, but the wording implies to me that just the top 8 team riders plus the top 16 individ (by the wording sounds like the 4th rider)  leaving the others who were on a team  - in limbo.

Congrats and Good luck on trying to change something as big as this.
Alison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Robert for the reply, and I am enjoying your site and personal views of things.</p>
<p>I must be a bit daft - since I cant seem to read betw the lines and answer my first question above.</p>
<p>If the 3rd rider cannot go onto the GPS - do the rest of the riders become individuals?  this must be the case then, but the wording implies to me that just the top 8 team riders plus the top 16 individ (by the wording sounds like the 4th rider)  leaving the others who were on a team  - in limbo.</p>
<p>Congrats and Good luck on trying to change something as big as this.<br />
Alison</p>
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		<title>By: RDover2</title>
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		<dc:creator>RDover2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Alison, a lot of questions. Read the proposal again and I think most if not all will be answered therein. 
Once the team is definite, the 4th rider may only go as an individaul, therefore, would not be elegible for a team medal. 
The individuals will go in groups that are reversed from their placements in the GP. 
I think all the rest is stated clearly in the proposal. 

As for trying to change the number of judges and the way in which the scores are to count, we will be taking up the matter further in April and I'm sure you will be able to read and make your opinions known to the DTF before a final decision is maden just as we are now doing with the OG format and the DC structure. 

Cheers!

RD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Alison, a lot of questions. Read the proposal again and I think most if not all will be answered therein.<br />
Once the team is definite, the 4th rider may only go as an individaul, therefore, would not be elegible for a team medal.<br />
The individuals will go in groups that are reversed from their placements in the GP.<br />
I think all the rest is stated clearly in the proposal. </p>
<p>As for trying to change the number of judges and the way in which the scores are to count, we will be taking up the matter further in April and I&#8217;m sure you will be able to read and make your opinions known to the DTF before a final decision is maden just as we are now doing with the OG format and the DC structure. </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>RD</p>
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		<title>By: lita dove</title>
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		<dc:creator>lita dove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert-- has there been any more discussion on adding more judges/ dropping low and high a la figure skating?

I honestly don't think this will change anything much, but it probably looks good from a PR standpoint and heaven knows, that is not a small achievement.

LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert&#8211; has there been any more discussion on adding more judges/ dropping low and high a la figure skating?</p>
<p>I honestly don&#8217;t think this will change anything much, but it probably looks good from a PR standpoint and heaven knows, that is not a small achievement.</p>
<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a few comments and questions on the proposal.

First, more is better.  Increasing from 50-60 will definately be better.  However, it will increase the number of strong competitors rather than a wider geographic scope since this change will not provide more opportunities for more countries, just more riders/country.  However, will make a better competition.

Now questions...
are you saying that the idea is to combine GP and GPS scores for the team medal? what happens if one of the team riders cannot do the GPS - eg. Sunrise in HK, is that team outa luck? do the other 2 continue on as individuals? or teams??  because if the 3rd team member isnt able to do the GPS that would mean they are not in the top 8 and therefore not eligible to move onto the GPS and then the freestyle unless they are individuals?

Does the 4th member (individ) get a medal too if the team wins? or just the 3? I know stupid question.... but who wouldnt be disappointed not to take something home the team won, when even though you are an individual you are a part of the team in travel training etc....

For the GPS, are you saying that all individuals will ride first before ALL the team riders regardless of GP score?  why then, would it matter how riders did in the GP when if the team is in the top 8 because they will still ride after all the individuals.  It is possible that a team rider scores well below the field but the other 2 team riders hold up the average. eg USA in HK 

Question for above for teams that dont make top 8 due to loss of 3rd rider - riders can or cannot move on to the GPS and freestyle? do they continue as individuals and thus be placed in the first 16 for the GPS?

For the GPFS, the top 20 with max 3/NF - including or excluding the individual?  

does the draw for GPFS stay the same as before?

And, personally I would like to see the Individual medal be a combo of all 3 scores.  Or failing that, the GPS and GPFS

I apologize if the answer to some of those questions is obvious to those 'in the know'.  
Alison Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a few comments and questions on the proposal.</p>
<p>First, more is better.  Increasing from 50-60 will definately be better.  However, it will increase the number of strong competitors rather than a wider geographic scope since this change will not provide more opportunities for more countries, just more riders/country.  However, will make a better competition.</p>
<p>Now questions&#8230;<br />
are you saying that the idea is to combine GP and GPS scores for the team medal? what happens if one of the team riders cannot do the GPS - eg. Sunrise in HK, is that team outa luck? do the other 2 continue on as individuals? or teams??  because if the 3rd team member isnt able to do the GPS that would mean they are not in the top 8 and therefore not eligible to move onto the GPS and then the freestyle unless they are individuals?</p>
<p>Does the 4th member (individ) get a medal too if the team wins? or just the 3? I know stupid question&#8230;. but who wouldnt be disappointed not to take something home the team won, when even though you are an individual you are a part of the team in travel training etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>For the GPS, are you saying that all individuals will ride first before ALL the team riders regardless of GP score?  why then, would it matter how riders did in the GP when if the team is in the top 8 because they will still ride after all the individuals.  It is possible that a team rider scores well below the field but the other 2 team riders hold up the average. eg USA in HK </p>
<p>Question for above for teams that dont make top 8 due to loss of 3rd rider - riders can or cannot move on to the GPS and freestyle? do they continue as individuals and thus be placed in the first 16 for the GPS?</p>
<p>For the GPFS, the top 20 with max 3/NF - including or excluding the individual?  </p>
<p>does the draw for GPFS stay the same as before?</p>
<p>And, personally I would like to see the Individual medal be a combo of all 3 scores.  Or failing that, the GPS and GPFS</p>
<p>I apologize if the answer to some of those questions is obvious to those &#8216;in the know&#8217;.<br />
Alison Martin</p>
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