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By: RDover2

RDover2 — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:18:45 +0000

Hi Whisper. The use of 7 judges is one method which is being tried with respect to major championships where there are already at least that number of judges on hand.

Best wishes.

By: Whisper

Whisper — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:13:07 +0000

Most shows will not be able to afford 7 judges per arena. Is the FEI planning to actually use either the scores of all 7 judges (or 5 with highest and lowest scores dropped), or are they using it to see how scores vary based on judge position?

By: RDover2

RDover2 — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:44:50 +0000

Hi Elaine.

Here is what the FEI put out.

PGRAM
- JUDGING SYSTEMS TRIAL IN AACHEN 7-9 SEPTEMBER 2009
Spectators are welcome, and a member of the Task Force will give an update of the systems to be tested just before the start of the first test, and during the trial. However, no information will be given about scores and results, and throughout the whole trial, horses will have numbers instead of names, to make the test completely objective.
Exact timings cannot be decided until the actual day, as the actual number of horses participating may change up to the last moment
7 SEPTEMBER
12.30 A member of the Task Force will give an update to the spectators.

1. Two tests running at the same time:
a. 7 judges judging, Grand Prix test positions E,H,C,M,B + both sides of A), otherwise today’s system (using scale 0-10, giving marks for all movements and collective marks).
This will let us test:
a. 5 judges as today for reference (by selecting the results of E,H,C,M,B judges)
b. 7 judges all counting
c. 7 judges, 5 counting, removing highest and lowest score (final score)

b. 4 judges judging, judging various elements of training scale
This will let us test:

a. How the training scale may be directly related to the marks and results of a test, and the differences in results to today’s system

2. Giving half marks 5 judges judging, Grand Prix test, positions E,H,C,M,B, (using scale 0-10, giving marks for all movements and collective marks), and 5 judges judging as today’s system

This will let us test:
a. How often do the judges give half marks?
b. Are the scores higher or lower?
c. How is the distribution? More 6.5 instead of 6, more 7.5 instead of 8?

Evening:
- Video session – open ending – practical judging from video, dividing tasks in Freestyle. 5 judges giving technical marks from the front (other angles cannot be evaluated from a video), 5 judges judging artistic marks. Testing a new system for degree of difficulty based on a mathematic formula

08 SEPTEMBER
3. Dividing of tasks, standard tests (Grand Prix test)

The individual trials will be studied by members of the Dressage Task Force, those judges taking part in the trials, the Supervisory Panel, outside statisticians, and FEI staff. I will do my best to post blogs from Aachen daily to keep readers informed as to how things are progressing.

Cheers!