Comments on: Two-Way Streets vs One -Way Roads http://doversworld.com/blog/2009/10/29/two-way-streets-vs-one-way-roads/ The website of Robert Dover Fri, 18 May 2012 07:27:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8-bleeding-edge hourly 1 By: Victoria Lee http://doversworld.com/blog/2009/10/29/two-way-streets-vs-one-way-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-4622 Victoria Lee Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:38:14 +0000 http://doversworld.com/blog/?p=2000#comment-4622 Hey Kenn…..You had me at Hello! Likewise dear Sir….. regarding your kind words. They are most gracious, but they belong to a person like Maggie who sounds like she is not just a thoughtful person but a thoughtful horse breeder as well. I am merely a Student of Dressage and possibly a “Poster Child” for all things that one should never do if they truly want to advance to International Competition. I have made a lot of mistakes, ones that obviously cost me any hope of reaching those potentials….and now at age 52…I am still trying to define who I am in the Industry and how I might find a way to fit in…..this I fear is the never ending saga for me and my passion toward this Sport and scarily similar to the movie “Groundhog Day”!. When “Industry Peers” such as yourself and Robert Dover offer words of wisdom and share some of your ideas, thoughts…it not only inspires …you give people like myself direction and hope!....Thank you!!! Hey Kenn…..You had me at Hello!
Likewise dear Sir….. regarding your kind words. They are most gracious, but they belong to a person like Maggie who sounds like she is not just a thoughtful person but a thoughtful horse breeder as well.
I am merely a Student of Dressage and possibly a “Poster Child” for all things that one should never do if they truly want to advance to International Competition.
I have made a lot of mistakes, ones that obviously cost me any hope of reaching those potentials….and now at age 52…I am still trying to define who I am in the Industry and how I might find a way to fit in…..this I fear is the never ending saga for me and my passion toward this Sport and scarily similar to the movie “Groundhog Day”!.
When “Industry Peers” such as yourself and Robert Dover offer words of wisdom and share some of your ideas, thoughts…it not only inspires …you give people like myself direction and hope!….Thank you!!!

]]> By: Kenn acebal http://doversworld.com/blog/2009/10/29/two-way-streets-vs-one-way-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-4620 Kenn acebal Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:44:57 +0000 http://doversworld.com/blog/?p=2000#comment-4620 Victoria Lee, Thank you for your kind words and thoughts!! And no worries about knwo all of the Peron Story , he was a wonderful hero of the United States and was trained and developed here , ridden by a very talented driven American , with final touches in Europe !! I think part of the breeding North America vs Europe is that we have only recentely become seriose about breeding sport horses in north america vs the hundreds o fyears in europe. I believe that the gap will continue to narrow. We must also take into accout the amazing diversity of breeds here. If you took all the breeders of Saddlbreds, Arabians, Quarter Horses Walking horses, Hackney Ponies, Paso Finos, Morgans etc.........you get my drift .........and had them all breeding sport horse warmbloods, we wouldl have a quite a leg up. there are , of course different breeds disiplines in Europe , but not the major show horses are sport horses. Look at the breeds that are truly unique that were developed here in the USA, Saddlebreds, ,Morgans, Quarter horses, Walking Horses Standardbreeds !!! As a trainer , when i have customers looking at horses , i always try to find something here first , but one of the problems , is the distances we must travel After you look at one horse on FLorida and another in California the go to Vancouver, the time and expense becomes increasingly prohibitive, On a trop to Europe , we can step off the plane and start looking the first day > YOu can see 50, 75 , a hundred young horses in a week. As the Euro becomes even stronger to the dollar it becomes an advantage to shop here and support our own breeders. I do believe that this day will come!! Thanks to people like you who thoughtfully breed for better quality with each cross, I know that the breeding business can have many many hurdles , but there are wonderful successes, and the breeders must truly love it with none of the glory Best regards, Kenn p.s. thank you for your dedication and passion!!! Victoria Lee,
Thank you for your kind words and thoughts!! And no worries about knwo all of the Peron Story , he was a wonderful hero of the United States and was trained and developed here , ridden by a very talented driven American , with final touches in Europe !!
I think part of the breeding North America vs Europe is that we have only recentely become seriose about breeding sport horses in north america vs the hundreds o fyears in europe. I believe that the gap will continue to narrow.
We must also take into accout the amazing diversity of breeds here. If you took all the breeders of Saddlbreds, Arabians, Quarter Horses Walking horses, Hackney Ponies, Paso Finos, Morgans etc………you get my drift ………and had them all breeding sport horse warmbloods, we wouldl have a quite a leg up. there are , of course different breeds disiplines in Europe , but not the major show horses are sport horses.
Look at the breeds that are truly unique that were developed here in the USA, Saddlebreds, ,Morgans, Quarter horses, Walking Horses Standardbreeds !!!
As a trainer , when i have customers looking at horses , i always try to find something here first , but one of the problems , is the distances we must travel After you look at one horse on FLorida and another in California the go to Vancouver, the time and expense becomes increasingly prohibitive, On a trop to Europe , we can step off the plane and start looking the first day > YOu can see 50, 75 , a hundred young horses in a week. As the Euro becomes even stronger to the dollar it becomes an advantage to shop here and support our own breeders. I do believe that this day will come!! Thanks to people like you who thoughtfully breed for better quality with each cross, I know that the breeding business can have many many hurdles , but there are wonderful successes, and the breeders must truly love it with none of the glory
Best regards,

Kenn
p.s. thank you for your dedication and passion!!!

]]> By: Maggie Mae http://doversworld.com/blog/2009/10/29/two-way-streets-vs-one-way-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-4614 Maggie Mae Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:54:59 +0000 http://doversworld.com/blog/?p=2000#comment-4614 I have been thinking of things over the last couple of days. My fear isn't that we are breeding an inferior animal, my fear is that we do not do a good enough job to convince potential buyers in N.A. to look in their own back yard first. I have done some reading on the riding schools in Europe and how they produce riders, trainers, etc. Part of the training incurrs knowing more abou the horse, from anotomy to behaviour, etc. Do we need something here along the same lines. As was stated, the same bloodlines can be found on either side of the pond, especially with the availability of Frozen and AI. Somehow we do not do a good enough job of letting people know, or showing people that we indeed are producing better quality animals year after year. It seems we are all about the line shows and foal championships as breeders and then after that we loose site of what happens. Those of you out there with a NA born and bred competitor tell me of your accomplishments. Love to hear them. Should we be focusing on developing our talent base with the riders/trainers in order that they can bring along our animals along. The horse industry supports a mulitude of employment not just at the tack and farms, but think of the spin off, hay and feed suppliers, bedding, tack shops, veterinary medicine, farriers, grooms, etc. Perhaps if we banded together we could work on just that. I don't know how to make a difference or put the wheel in motion. I have been thinking of things over the last couple of days. My fear isn’t that we are breeding an inferior animal, my fear is that we do not do a good enough job to convince potential buyers in N.A. to look in their own back yard first. I have done some reading on the riding schools in Europe and how they produce riders, trainers, etc. Part of the training incurrs knowing more abou the horse, from anotomy to behaviour, etc. Do we need something here along the same lines. As was stated, the same bloodlines can be found on either side of the pond, especially with the availability of Frozen and AI. Somehow we do not do a good enough job of letting people know, or showing people that we indeed are producing better quality animals year after year. It seems we are all about the line shows and foal championships as breeders and then after that we loose site of what happens. Those of you out there with a NA born and bred competitor tell me of your accomplishments. Love to hear them.
Should we be focusing on developing our talent base with the riders/trainers in order that they can bring along our animals along. The horse industry supports a mulitude of employment not just at the tack and farms, but think of the spin off, hay and feed suppliers, bedding, tack shops, veterinary medicine, farriers, grooms, etc. Perhaps if we banded together we could work on just that. I don’t know how to make a difference or put the wheel in motion.

]]> By: JAMES http://doversworld.com/blog/2009/10/29/two-way-streets-vs-one-way-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-4595 JAMES Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:41:27 +0000 http://doversworld.com/blog/?p=2000#comment-4595 HEY THERE ROBERT TOOK YOUR ADVICE AND CHECKED OUT YOUR SITE, PREETY IMPRESSIVE,, YOU ARE SO GREAT AT TELLING YOUR EXPERIENCES, SEE YOU IN THE SALON JAMES BLASI M.A SALON & SPA HEY THERE ROBERT TOOK YOUR ADVICE AND CHECKED OUT YOUR SITE, PREETY IMPRESSIVE,, YOU ARE SO GREAT AT TELLING YOUR EXPERIENCES, SEE YOU IN THE SALON JAMES BLASI M.A SALON & SPA

]]> By: Victoria Lee http://doversworld.com/blog/2009/10/29/two-way-streets-vs-one-way-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-4586 Victoria Lee Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:06:54 +0000 http://doversworld.com/blog/?p=2000#comment-4586 Hello Kenn: Thank you for clearing up my misinformation regarding Peron. I am most apologetic for my inaccuracies. I was writing from my heart and my head in the heat of the moment. The worst part is I should be more conscientious and better informed since I am the keeper of 6 Trakehners myself. I stand corrected regarding the breeding origin of the great Stallion Peron….for some reason I was thinking of Valhalla farms and I do apologize for my not researching before making incorrect assumptions. I fear I am offering a knee jerk reaction to Maggie’s concerns that we are not breeding the same caliber of horse here in North America that is being produced in Europe. I was searching for an example that might support my argument that we are better to scrutinize our training and development programs for our horses more closely then the bloodlines of our Equine partners, because I feel that the breeding programs in N.A. or Europe are fairly comparable with the selections and/or availability of great bloodlines in N.A. I have had Breeding stock in my stable in Langley, B.C., that was represented by direct European Imports (well documented/established regarding performance records in Europe) with their N.A. born offspring at their side and not being able to impress perspective buyers because of the Buyer’s preference in making a trip to Europe to buy directly. I used Peron as an example of a great horse that had accomplished great things in a theatre that was composed of many N.A. Players and that is mostly what I remember of Peron. Thanks to people like yourself and Robert Dover and Michele Gibson and Rudolf Zeilinger you proved that there are no borders for us in this discipline and that we can all work together to achieve common goals. The great training, handling and promotion of a great potential does indeed produce extraordinary things that we all grow from. You helped to produce a horse that became a Hero to many of us…especially here in N.A...I had forgotten that his origin was Germany…Once again, I do apologize! I will always remember that this horse named Peron made a lot of people here in N.A. very hopeful and definitely very proud…and obviously you and our other Hero Robert Dover were a very important part of that...hence our young horses need talented riders in order to achieve loftier heights...like those of Peron....Thank you! Hello Kenn:
Thank you for clearing up my misinformation regarding Peron. I am most apologetic for my inaccuracies. I was writing from my heart and my head in the heat of the moment. The worst part is I should be more conscientious and better informed since I am the keeper of 6 Trakehners myself. I stand corrected regarding the breeding origin of the great Stallion Peron….for some reason I was thinking of Valhalla farms and I do apologize for my not researching before making incorrect assumptions.
I fear I am offering a knee jerk reaction to Maggie’s concerns that we are not breeding the same caliber of horse here in North America that is being produced in Europe. I was searching for an example that might support my argument that we are better to scrutinize our training and development programs for our horses more closely then the bloodlines of our Equine partners, because I feel that the breeding programs in N.A. or Europe are fairly comparable with the selections and/or availability of great bloodlines in N.A.
I have had Breeding stock in my stable in Langley, B.C., that was represented by direct European Imports (well documented/established regarding performance records in Europe) with their N.A. born offspring at their side and not being able to impress perspective buyers because of the Buyer’s preference in making a trip to Europe to buy directly.
I used Peron as an example of a great horse that had accomplished great things in a theatre that was composed of many N.A. Players and that is mostly what I remember of Peron. Thanks to people like yourself and Robert Dover and Michele Gibson and Rudolf Zeilinger you proved that there are no borders for us in this discipline and that we can all work together to achieve common goals. The great training, handling and promotion of a great potential does indeed produce extraordinary things that we all grow from. You helped to produce a horse that became a Hero to many of us…especially here in N.A…I had forgotten that his origin was Germany…Once again, I do apologize! I will always remember that this horse named Peron made a lot of people here in N.A. very hopeful and definitely very proud…and obviously you and our other Hero Robert Dover were a very important part of that…hence our young horses need talented riders in order to achieve loftier heights…like those of Peron….Thank you!

]]> By: kenn acebal http://doversworld.com/blog/2009/10/29/two-way-streets-vs-one-way-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-4580 kenn acebal Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:45:13 +0000 http://doversworld.com/blog/?p=2000#comment-4580 Hi Victoria, I just want to clear up a little bit of miss information in your letter. Peron was not bred in the United States. He was bred in Germany where he was approved by the Trakehner Verband . He was purchased and imported into Canada by Guenter Bertelleman, who also owned his half brother Donaufurst. Peron then stood a season at Pat Goodman's Wonderland Farm in Pennsylvania . It is then that i found and purchased him as a 4 year old for Dr Carol Meyer Ghattas. She then sponsored me with him, i was very young then, and i went into training with Robert Dover. I , aong with Robert's training and guidence developed him over the next 7 years during which he was trained to grand prix. After a split with the owners and i, Peron found his way to Michele Gibson , who with the expert trainig of Rudolph Zeilienger achieved fame at the 1996 Olymoics in Atlanta. Best regards, Kenn Acebal Hi Victoria,
I just want to clear up a little bit of miss information in your letter. Peron was not bred in the United States. He was bred in Germany where he was approved by the Trakehner Verband . He was purchased and imported into Canada by Guenter Bertelleman, who also owned his half brother Donaufurst. Peron then stood a season at Pat Goodman’s Wonderland Farm in Pennsylvania . It is then that i found and purchased him as a 4 year old for Dr Carol Meyer Ghattas. She then sponsored me with him, i was very young then, and i went into training with Robert Dover. I , aong with Robert’s training and guidence developed him over the next 7 years during which he was trained to grand prix. After a split with the owners and i, Peron found his way to Michele Gibson , who with the expert trainig of Rudolph Zeilienger achieved fame at the 1996 Olymoics in Atlanta.
Best regards,
Kenn Acebal

]]> By: Victoria Lee http://doversworld.com/blog/2009/10/29/two-way-streets-vs-one-way-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-4576 Victoria Lee Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:28:40 +0000 http://doversworld.com/blog/?p=2000#comment-4576 “Well Maggie”……….we can start by taking your first concern and using it as the formation of our mantra “ Common Ideas and Common Visions can produce Extraordinary Dreams and Impossible Goals”. We need to work together as an Industry utilizing Europe’s strategies as a Model. Maggie, I think you have some great ideas... We are not really achieving our goals or helping the Industry to perpetuate (especially with profitability) by producing products that are not being properly utilized…so we need to develop our Industry together from the ground up. If the Gymnastics of a horse and/or Rider might be compared to the gymnastics of a young human Olympic athlete we might recognize that our talented counterparts are working toward their athletic goals from a very early start and are supported by very talented coaching along the way. We need to do this with our discipline. We need many, many talented coaches and teachers available to head programs for equestrians (at every age level). We have technical schools, colleges or Equestrian centers that may qualify as reasonable forums or facsimiles to offer education toward Equine studies either on or off the horse and rewarding with accreditation offered via one system that is at National standards per say whilst paying the Educators/Coaches a reasonable fee. Similar to the German Federation we might consider offering several different Training methodologies i.e., vaulting, long lining, driving, dressage, jumping as a prerequisite for completion of a “Trainers” or “Professional Horseman’s” License nationally recognized which should therefore receive some financial and administrative support from our Associations i.e., USEF, CEF. In the spirit of these lofty ideas it might be considered that Breeders, Breed Registries and Institutes directly impacted by this association jointly participate in the development of superior young horses through selected breeding programs specifically produced for and utilized by these Institutes. These young horses would be schooled by advanced alumni only. An Elite/Selection Auction could be held and could assist or contribute financially to the Breeding Program. Perhaps the top talent of Equestrians thereby qualify for bursaries to higher studies or Sponsorship with talented Equine partners attached to the program or Sponsorship from a pre existing Foundation attached to the Institute and contributed to by all of us in the Industry. I agree with you Maggie we are suffering from a Fractured Industry. Each of one of us is holding a splinter or a shard but unlike a jigsaw puzzle we have no picture to form even if we could all join together because we have not formed one central image. We are all experts because we are all pretty much self taught…we have all become streetwise enough to survive…but surviving is not going to propel this Industry forward. We need to become central in our educational standards and make them accessible for all. We need to breed for our future not for the immediate trends. We need to understand that we are all keepers of our horses futures..! “Well Maggie”……….we can start by taking your first concern and using it as the formation of our mantra “ Common Ideas and Common Visions can produce Extraordinary Dreams and Impossible Goals”.
We need to work together as an Industry utilizing Europe’s strategies as a Model. Maggie, I think you have some great ideas…
We are not really achieving our goals or helping the Industry to perpetuate (especially with profitability) by producing products that are not being properly utilized…so we need to develop our Industry together from the ground up. If the Gymnastics of a horse and/or Rider might be compared to the gymnastics of a young human Olympic athlete we might recognize that our talented counterparts are working toward their athletic goals from a very early start and are supported by very talented coaching along the way. We need to do this with our discipline. We need many, many talented coaches and teachers available to head programs for equestrians (at every age level). We have technical schools, colleges or Equestrian centers that may qualify as reasonable forums or facsimiles to offer education toward Equine studies either on or off the horse and rewarding with accreditation offered via one system that is at National standards per say whilst paying the Educators/Coaches a reasonable fee. Similar to the German Federation we might consider offering several different Training methodologies i.e., vaulting, long lining, driving, dressage, jumping as a prerequisite for completion of a “Trainers” or “Professional Horseman’s” License nationally recognized which should therefore receive some financial and administrative support from our Associations i.e., USEF, CEF. In the spirit of these lofty ideas it might be considered that Breeders, Breed Registries and Institutes directly impacted by this association jointly participate in the development of superior young horses through selected breeding programs specifically produced for and utilized by these Institutes. These young horses would be schooled by advanced alumni only. An Elite/Selection Auction could be held and could assist or contribute financially to the Breeding Program. Perhaps the top talent of Equestrians thereby qualify for bursaries to higher studies or Sponsorship with talented Equine partners attached to the program or Sponsorship from a pre existing Foundation attached to the Institute and contributed to by all of us in the Industry.
I agree with you Maggie we are suffering from a Fractured Industry. Each of one of us is holding a splinter or a shard but unlike a jigsaw puzzle we have no picture to form even if we could all join together because we have not formed one central image. We are all experts because we are all pretty much self taught…we have all become streetwise enough to survive…but surviving is not going to propel this Industry forward. We need to become central in our educational standards and make them accessible for all. We need to breed for our future not for the immediate trends. We need to understand that we are all keepers of our horses futures..!

]]> By: Maggie Mae http://doversworld.com/blog/2009/10/29/two-way-streets-vs-one-way-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-4572 Maggie Mae Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:22:45 +0000 http://doversworld.com/blog/?p=2000#comment-4572 Victoria Lee, you make sounds arguements here. So how do we start the process? I find that sometimes we are so busy being at odds with one another that there is no common goal. It is mostly about selling horses not about improving our image here in N.A. concerning our programs and animals. I think it would be a great idea to work toward developing and cultivating our riders/trainers to support this goal as you say. What would people think of a certain percentage of governing body fees or entry fees go towards developing a system to support this even now we are facing increases. Yet we cannot outprice ourselves from the grass roots as they are the foundation and the future. Do we lobby for more government support to supplement our existing top riders and trainers. So many questions, but what is the starting point? Victoria Lee, you make sounds arguements here. So how do we start the process? I find that sometimes we are so busy being at odds with one another that there is no common goal. It is mostly about selling horses not about improving our image here in N.A. concerning our programs and animals. I think it would be a great idea to work toward developing and cultivating our riders/trainers to support this goal as you say. What would people think of a certain percentage of governing body fees or entry fees go towards developing a system to support this even now we are facing increases. Yet we cannot outprice ourselves from the grass roots as they are the foundation and the future. Do we lobby for more government support to supplement our existing top riders and trainers. So many questions, but what is the starting point?

]]> By: Victoria Lee http://doversworld.com/blog/2009/10/29/two-way-streets-vs-one-way-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-4571 Victoria Lee Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:45:04 +0000 http://doversworld.com/blog/?p=2000#comment-4571 At the risk of sounding one sided I would like to reiterate regarding the necessity to look past the question of whether we here in North America are at par at this point with horse breeding in Europe. There is no doubt of that for most people, in fact there are a few stallions or competitive horses that have been bred in North America and eventually found their way back to Europe becoming Ambassadors to their Breed Registries i.e., Peron Trakehner Stallion. I think we need to ask ourselves why 3 to 6 year old horses in Europe with the same bloodlines as others of the same age in N.A. are worth the effort it takes to purchase and import these genetically similar horses to N.A. O.K....3 words..... Training, Training, Training! We are inferior at starting our young horses in comparison to our European counterparts. We have very, very few working riders that are truly equipped with the ability to understand when and how to put a young horse together enough to build on and connect to their natural skills… and I feel to make matters worse we are lacking the “Eyes on the Ground” that can support the Training scale methodology. Here in N.A., it is rare to find people that one could call a Grand Prix School Master that is available or prepared to put a fulltime effort into the supervision required to facilitate a program whereby the potentials and advancement of talented young horses and experienced riders are cultivated and advanced accordingly, yet in Europe there are Schools and Studs of this type…aplenty! I have no doubt change will come…like the talented bloodlines that are already here in North America and improving steadily we are going to evolve with our ability to create centers or schools similar to those in Europe whereby talented horses and talented riders are awarded the opportunity for competitive development because we are slowly cultivating our riders and programs toward this goal. For now …a talented young horse in N .A. with great movement or not…rarely gets the benefit of proper initial development because we are still behind in our movement of developing Rider’s (or a sustainable industry for them to survive in) that are equipped with the experience to bring out the potentials of our young horses. As long as we have green horse / green trainer/rider combinations we are going to be loosing our market share to Europe that has a healthy inventory of experienced talented trainers that can offer and facilitate that polished difference to a young horse’s potentials and present a more sophisticated Sale therein. At the risk of sounding one sided I would like to reiterate regarding the necessity to look past the question of whether we here in North America are at par at this point with horse breeding in Europe. There is no doubt of that for most people, in fact there are a few stallions or competitive horses that have been bred in North America and eventually found their way back to Europe becoming Ambassadors to their Breed Registries i.e., Peron Trakehner Stallion.
I think we need to ask ourselves why 3 to 6 year old horses in Europe with the same bloodlines as others of the same age in N.A. are worth the effort it takes to purchase and import these genetically similar horses to N.A. O.K….3 words….. Training, Training, Training!
We are inferior at starting our young horses in comparison to our European counterparts. We have very, very few working riders that are truly equipped with the ability to understand when and how to put a young horse together enough to build on and connect to their natural skills… and I feel to make matters worse we are lacking the “Eyes on the Ground” that can support the Training scale methodology.
Here in N.A., it is rare to find people that one could call a Grand Prix School Master that is available or prepared to put a fulltime effort into the supervision required to facilitate a program whereby the potentials and advancement of talented young horses and experienced riders are cultivated and advanced accordingly, yet in Europe there are Schools and Studs of this type…aplenty!
I have no doubt change will come…like the talented bloodlines that are already here in North America and improving steadily we are going to evolve with our ability to create centers or schools similar to those in Europe whereby talented horses and talented riders are awarded the opportunity for competitive development because we are slowly cultivating our riders and programs toward this goal. For now …a talented young horse in N .A. with great movement or not…rarely gets the benefit of proper initial development because we are still behind in our movement of developing Rider’s (or a sustainable industry for them to survive in) that are equipped with the experience to bring out the potentials of our young horses.
As long as we have green horse / green trainer/rider combinations we are going to be loosing our market share to Europe that has a healthy inventory of experienced talented trainers that can offer and facilitate that polished difference to a young horse’s potentials and present a more sophisticated Sale therein.

]]> By: Maggie Mae http://doversworld.com/blog/2009/10/29/two-way-streets-vs-one-way-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-4537 Maggie Mae Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:25:57 +0000 http://doversworld.com/blog/?p=2000#comment-4537 Why are people willing to spend big $$$$$ on imported horses when here in North America we have some great breeding. Sure we are behind by 100's of years of selective breeding, but we have come a long way. Is it because we as NA breeders aren't willing to cull our herds of foundation or inferior mares and stallions and keep breeding at the same level? Is it because we keep our stud books open at some registries? Is it because we are not as educated as breeders in other countries? What makes people think that European bred horses are better than the N.A. bred horses? Why are people willing to spend big $$$$$ on imported horses when here in North America we have some great breeding. Sure we are behind by 100’s of years of selective breeding, but we have come a long way. Is it because we as NA breeders aren’t willing to cull our herds of foundation or inferior mares and stallions and keep breeding at the same level? Is it because we keep our stud books open at some registries? Is it because we are not as educated as breeders in other countries? What makes people think that European bred horses are better than the N.A. bred horses?

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